Comments on: Zuckerberg Says Facebook’s Focus is on Growth, Not Revenue http://www.insidefacebook.com/2008/10/09/zuckerberg-says-facebooks-focus-is-on-growth-not-revenue/ Tracking Facebook and the Facebook Platform for Developers and Marketers Mon, 13 Feb 2012 17:43:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: How to measure success ? (Both Social + for profit) http://www.insidefacebook.com/2008/10/09/zuckerberg-says-facebooks-focus-is-on-growth-not-revenue/comment-page-1/#comment-13476 How to measure success ? (Both Social + for profit) Mon, 27 Oct 2008 11:12:42 +0000 http://www.insidefacebook.com/?p=3023#comment-13476 [...] Zuckerberg Says Facebook’s Focus is on Growth, Not Revenue [...] [...] Zuckerberg Says Facebook’s Focus is on Growth, Not Revenue [...]

]]> By: mike ashworth http://www.insidefacebook.com/2008/10/09/zuckerberg-says-facebooks-focus-is-on-growth-not-revenue/comment-page-1/#comment-12957 mike ashworth Fri, 10 Oct 2008 18:24:16 +0000 http://www.insidefacebook.com/?p=3023#comment-12957 In his interview with the German newspaper Zuckerberg it states the following FAZ: Will social networks cannibalize the E-Mail? Yes, that is definitely possible. E-mail tends to have more functionality. But social network messaging tends to be very simple. Now let me pick myself up off the floor from laughing. Facebook purports to be a tool that allows people to stay in touch with others around them, "social networking" call it what you will. This is blatantly not the case. I have recently been administering a successful group on facebook called "bounce your balls for cancer". http://www.new.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2345662295 It is an organisation which raises funds for mens cancer charities and also raises awareness generally. To grow the group I have taken an innovative approach (innovative as it has never happened to me) and started to send people a thankyou message when they join the group. This seemed like a very "social" thing to do and in doing so I also ask them to share the group with others if they wish to do so. I have now received an "official warning" from facebook that they believe I am spamming people and if i'm not careful I'll get banned / account disabled. How ridiculous! Sure I could send out a message to the entire group and within it thank those people who've recently joined however that's spam as ppl only need to be told thankyou once. anything that is not relevant is spam, end of story. Now, if facebook could introduce a function that allowed an auto message to be generate to ppl joining a group or fan page and I could place the thankyou text within that etc. that would work. I can have autoresponders for my email why not facebook? there you go facebook another idea for your Developers, where do I pick up my shares from? I really don't believe that their messaging system and the awful chat functionality will develop sufficiently to eat into the market share of email and messaging platforms. I am also finding that more and more facebook is just another broadcast tool for people who want to shout at potential customers rather than engage in dialogue / conversations Mike Ashworth Marketing Coach and Consultant Brighton and Hove, Sussex, UK In his interview with the German newspaper Zuckerberg it states the following

FAZ: Will social networks cannibalize the E-Mail?

Yes, that is definitely possible. E-mail tends to have more functionality. But social network messaging tends to be very simple.

Now let me pick myself up off the floor from laughing.

Facebook purports to be a tool that allows people to stay in touch with others around them, “social networking” call it what you will. This is blatantly not the case.

I have recently been administering a successful group on facebook called “bounce your balls for cancer”.
http://www.new.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2345662295

It is an organisation which raises funds for mens cancer charities and also raises awareness generally.

To grow the group I have taken an innovative approach (innovative as it has never happened to me) and started to send people a thankyou message when they join the group. This seemed like a very “social” thing to do and in doing so I also ask them to share the group with others if they wish to do so.

I have now received an “official warning” from facebook that they believe I am spamming people and if i’m not careful I’ll get banned / account disabled.

How ridiculous!

Sure I could send out a message to the entire group and within it thank those people who’ve recently joined however that’s spam as ppl only need to be told thankyou once. anything that is not relevant is spam, end of story.

Now, if facebook could introduce a function that allowed an auto message to be generate to ppl joining a group or fan page and I could place the thankyou text within that etc. that would work. I can have autoresponders for my email why not facebook? there you go facebook another idea for your Developers, where do I pick up my shares from?

I really don’t believe that their messaging system and the awful chat functionality will develop sufficiently to eat into the market share of email and messaging platforms.

I am also finding that more and more facebook is just another broadcast tool for people who want to shout at potential customers rather than engage in dialogue / conversations

Mike Ashworth
Marketing Coach and Consultant
Brighton and Hove, Sussex, UK

]]> By: Kyle Brady: A Blog » Archive » How To Cut Your Startup’s Costs http://www.insidefacebook.com/2008/10/09/zuckerberg-says-facebooks-focus-is-on-growth-not-revenue/comment-page-1/#comment-12951 Kyle Brady: A Blog » Archive » How To Cut Your Startup’s Costs Fri, 10 Oct 2008 16:20:49 +0000 http://www.insidefacebook.com/?p=3023#comment-12951 [...] Ted so sagely mentions, the “business model” of “traffic first, profit/sustainability later” no longer flies.  Technically, it never did, but the funding community apparently won’t [...] [...] Ted so sagely mentions, the “business model” of “traffic first, profit/sustainability later” no longer flies.  Technically, it never did, but the funding community apparently won’t [...]

]]> By: Evan http://www.insidefacebook.com/2008/10/09/zuckerberg-says-facebooks-focus-is-on-growth-not-revenue/comment-page-1/#comment-12950 Evan Fri, 10 Oct 2008 15:29:27 +0000 http://www.insidefacebook.com/?p=3023#comment-12950 Yes, totally agree. I understand their objectives as any other company or business out there to create revenue but don't go around flinging bullshit at people. The revamping of the website was almost certainly done to increase the marketing reach of advertising companies. Evan www.beyondrace.com Yes, totally agree. I understand their objectives as any other company or business out there to create revenue but don’t go around flinging bullshit at people. The revamping of the website was almost certainly done to increase the marketing reach of advertising companies.

Evan
http://www.beyondrace.com

]]> By: Nick Stamoulis http://www.insidefacebook.com/2008/10/09/zuckerberg-says-facebooks-focus-is-on-growth-not-revenue/comment-page-1/#comment-12936 Nick Stamoulis Fri, 10 Oct 2008 02:30:09 +0000 http://www.insidefacebook.com/?p=3023#comment-12936 Oh c'mon, it's about both! Afterall.. growth usually means revenue anyways. Oh c’mon, it’s about both! Afterall.. growth usually means revenue anyways.

]]> By: jason bailey http://www.insidefacebook.com/2008/10/09/zuckerberg-says-facebooks-focus-is-on-growth-not-revenue/comment-page-1/#comment-12933 jason bailey Fri, 10 Oct 2008 00:34:20 +0000 http://www.insidefacebook.com/?p=3023#comment-12933 When you aren't making any money it is easy to say "we aren't even trying to make money". As soon as you say you are trying, expectations go way up. No one wants to hear the story about the guy not making any money from his millions of customers. Everyone wants to hear about the guy with millions of customers who isn't even 'trying' to make money yet. Both are the same guy, one just has a better spin doctor than the other. There is a tonne of money to be made from these eyeballs, lot's of third parties are getting their fair share of that. Facebook can and will make money. I think Mark is downplaying how hard those 'secondary' teams are working. When you aren’t making any money it is easy to say “we aren’t even trying to make money”. As soon as you say you are trying, expectations go way up. No one wants to hear the story about the guy not making any money from his millions of customers. Everyone wants to hear about the guy with millions of customers who isn’t even ‘trying’ to make money yet. Both are the same guy, one just has a better spin doctor than the other.

There is a tonne of money to be made from these eyeballs, lot’s of third parties are getting their fair share of that. Facebook can and will make money. I think Mark is downplaying how hard those ‘secondary’ teams are working.

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